Firefighter spent
two
days at crash site
By Kate Thompson
Journal staff writer
Orville Thiele, who was the assistant Sioux City fire chief on duty July 19, 1989, was
called to Sioux Gateway Airport before United Airlines Flight 232 crashed.
They knew the plane was in trouble, long before it crashed. As it circled the airport,
Thiele and his driver, Chuck Hirsch, who is now a lieutenant with the Sioux City Fire
Department, were parked on the overpass. The plane appeared to be coming in well over
Southern Hills Mall.
"Then it cartwheeled," he said. "We knew he was all out of hydraulics.
We figured we would have to look into the river for them."
Thiele said he thought he was calm and prepared, until he later heard recordings of
himself on the radio.
"There was a big ball of flame," he said. "I really thought there would
be a complete loss of life."
When he reached the field, however, he saw people coming out of the cornfields.
"You have planned pretty well but for those first few minutes; it's chaos until
you reorganize yourself," he said. "We had most of the city services already on
the field, ambulance, police, fire."
Staff from the Woodbury County Disaster Services Agency, the Sioux Gateway
Crash-Fire-Rescue Station, the 185th Fighter Wing of the Iowa Air National Guard and
numerous other agencies were also on hand, each knowing their job.
Thiele's job was at the staging area, making sure that the firefighters and other
agencies had what they needed to battle the blaze, help the survivors and deal with the
victims.
He was there for 48 hours before he ever went home.
"I could not sleep," he said. "The night I came home, I must have been
in a stupor. I was tired and I finally went to bed."
Thiele said he tried to put the experience behind him. It wasn't the worst thing he's
ever seen; that came in Korea when he was a 17-year-old Marine.
While it might be easy to criticize how the disaster was handled later, he said he felt
everyone did a tremendous job.
Thiele and his crew were checking for survivors, but not expecting to find any when
they saw a mass of wires that turned out to be the cockpit.
"You would never think anybody in that mass of wires would survive," he said.
Capt. Al C. Haynes, the co-pilot and navigator were alive inside and rescued.
If such a disaster occurred again, Thiele is convinced emergency personnel would be
even better equipped to deal with it.
"We have practical experience now," he said. "All the departments worked
closely together."
Ten years later, Thiele is retired from the Sioux City Fire Department, a job he left
in 1995. He and his wife still live in Sioux City most of the year and in Arizona during
the winter.
"I thought I was doing pretty good," he said. "I had just accepted it as
part of my responsibility. Naturally, it bothered me. You always wonder if you could have
saved more lives. Was there something you should have done?"
Sioux City Journal (8/15/99)
By Lynn Zerschling
Journal staff writer
Whenever something happens at Los Angeles International Airport involving a disaster or
a safety issue, George Lindblade gets a call.
"Every time they have an incident at LAX, they call and say they want three copies
of "Alert 3' fed-exed to them," the noted Sioux City photographer and
cinematographer said.
Ten years ago Lindblade produced "Alert 3: The Crash of Flight 232" as a
training film to be used by rescue crews, firefighters, law enforcement officers and
others involved in disaster response.
Lindblade said he always tells the callers from LAX the same thing -- they have copies
of the video.
"They say, 'It's on our list of things to do. It's part of our protocol.' For all
I know, those videos are falling into a black hole out there," he quipped.
Lindblade produced "Alert 3" as a training tool to show how disaster
readiness and cooperative planning can make a difference when a community responds to a
major disaster. The hour-long film shows what happened the afternoon of the crash,
conversations between the pilots and air traffic controllers, film of the plane crashing
at Sioux Gateway Airport, the rescue operations, how "trackers" were assigned to
each body, the use of volunteers and other professionals, securing the wreckage,
debriefings and interviews with key people.
The idea for the video came from Sioux City Fire Department training officer Terry
Schmidt who suggested Lindblade put together a training film using material the Fire
Department had collected.
Bill Turner, then vice president and general manager at KTIV-Channel 4, gave Lindblade
permission to use the footage shot by KTIV photographer Dave Boxum of the airline
crash-landing at the airport.
When no outside funding to produce the video became available, Lindblade, owner of G.R.
Lindblade & Co., decided to charge $49 per tape. The fee helped defray expenses to
make the video, the accompanying brochures and advertising.
"I guess we have sent anywhere from 6,000 to 8,000 copies of this around the
world," Lindblade estimated.
The video not only was produced in English, but also in other languages and it even
found its way to Communist countries.
Lindblade has sent the tape at no cost if the person or agency didn't have the money.
"The California Highway Patrol called us once and said they didn't have the $49
because it wasn't in their budget. We sent it to them anyway. They couldn't believe
anybody would do that and they sent us the 49 bucks when they got the money.
"One of the first telephone calls I got was from the Chicago Fire Department who
said the video was worth ten times what we were charging. It was not a case of trying to
make money out of it. We were just trying to break even on the thing so any paramedic or
volunteer firefighter could afford it."
Because so many copies of "Alert 3" were made, Lindblade said the master copy
wore out. He digitally redid the video.
"Just two months ago, we finished a new video based on 'Alert 3' called 'Lessons
Learned.' It has some of the people featured in the first video, plus interviews with new
people on the things they have learned over the past decade on what they would have done
differently."
One thing surprised Lindblade in producing the second video.
"It's uncanny. The people we've interviewed after ten years -- their stories are
exactly the same," he noted.
"Lessons Learned" stresses the importance of stress management and stress
debriefings following a disaster.
"We found out after ten years there have been a lot of divorces that were directly
influenced by the effort that day. And, the fact that many still need to talk about it is
kind of surprising."
The second video also includes some footage not used in the first one.
Lindblade now will send both video tapes to those who request it, for the same price of
$49.
The television movie about the crash was based a great deal on that "Alert 3"
video, Lindblade noted.
"I was told that had we not done that video tape, they never would have done the
movie."
Ten years later he continues to receive requests for "Alert 3."
"I got a call the other day from Norway. Some rescue company there wanted it. And
we just sent a tape to Littleton, Colo.," he said of the community where students
were gunned down at Columbine High School.
Lindblade said the video is relevant today because the greater Sioux City community had
planned so well for handling a disaster.
"This will be the standard and will continue to be until somebody comes up with
something better."
And, he emphasized, the video is in demand because the community is perceived as
handling the disaster in a professional and comprehensive way.
"We did everything right in Sioux City. I've talked to some pretty influential
people in the disaster business and they are absolutely amazed how this came off," he
said. "I think it was one of the community's finest moments."
Sioux City Journal (8/15/99)
Contains Flight 232 emergency radio traffic file!
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Part One!
Part Two!
Part Three


Due to large file sizes this audio file is
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UAL 232 Controller Excerpts
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Here are excerpts from a tape of conversations
among air traffic controllers at Minneapolis and Sioux City, Iowa, and the crew of a
United Airlines DC-10 that crash-landed July 19 at Sioux City. Of the 296 people aboard
Flight 232, 185 survived and 111 were killed. The tape, covering about 36 minutes of
relevant interchanges, was released Friday by the Federal Aviation Administration.
3:23 p.m. CDT -- Minneapolis controllers to Sioux City
controllers: Sioux City, got an emergency for you.
Sioux City: All right.
Minneapolis: I've got a United aircraft coming in, lost No. 2
engine, having a hard time controlling the aircraft right now. He's out of 29,000 right
now and descending to Sioux City. Right now he's east of your VOR but he wants the
equipment standing by right now. .... He's east 40 miles ....
Sioux City: Radar contact.
3:25 p.m. -- Minneapolis: Did you say you had a radar on United
Airlines 232?
Sioux City: Affirmative radar.
Minneapolis: He's having a hard time controlling the plane right
now and trying to slow down and get steady on a heading. As soon as I get comfortable,
I'll ship him over to you and he'll be in your control.
Sioux City: All right.
3:26 p.m. -- UAL 232: Sioux City approach, United Airlines 232
Heavy (wide body), with you out of 26 (26,000 feet altitude). Heading right now is 290 and
we've got about a 500-foot rate of descent. .... OK, so you know we have almost no control
ability, very little elevator and almost no aileron. We are controlling the turns by
power. ... We can only turn right, but we can't turn left.
Sioux City: United 232 Heavy, understand, sir, you can only make
right turns.
3:27 p.m. -- Sioux City: United 232, ... your present track puts
you about 8 miles north of the airport, sir, and the only way we can get you around to
(runway) 31 is a slight left turn with differential power or, if you can, jockey it over.
UAL 232: OK, we're in a right turn now. That's about the only way
we can go. We'll be able to make very slight left turns on final, but right now just going
to make right turns to whatever heading you want.
3:29 p.m. -- Sioux City: United 232 Heavy, say souls on board and
fuel remaining.
3:32 p.m. -- UAL 232: We have no hydraulic fluid, which means we
have no elevator control, almost none, and very little aileron control. I have serious
doubts about making the airport. Have you got some place near there that we might be able
to ditch? Unless we get control of this airplane, we're going to put it down wherever it
happens to be.
Sioux City: United 232, roger. Stand by.
3:36 p.m. -- Sioux City: And United 232 Heavy, did you get the
souls on board count.
UAL 232: Stand by, tell you, right now we don't even have time to
let go and call the gal ....
Sioux City: Roger.
UAL 232: Two hundred ninety-two souls on board United 232.
Sioux City: Roger, thank you.
3:43 p.m. -- UAL 232: United 232, we're going to have to continue
one more right turn. We've got the elevators pretty much under control within 300 or 400
feet, but we still can't do much with the steering.
Sioux City: United 232 Heavy, roger, understand you do have the
elevators possibly under control. Will you be able to hold the altitude?
UAL 232: Negative. We don't have it. We are better, that's all.
Sioux City: Roger.
3:46 p.m. -- UAL 232: OK, United 232, we're starting a left turn
back to the airport. Since we have no hydraulics, braking is really going to be a problem.
Ah, we suggest the equipment be toward the far end of the runway and I think under the
circumstances, regardless of the condition of the airplane, when we stop, we're going to
evacuate. So you might notify the ground crew equipment that we're going to do that.
Sioux City: United 232 Heavy, wilco sir, and if you can continue
that left turn to a 220 heading, sir, that will take you right to the airport.
3:51 p.m. -- Sioux City: United 232 Heavy, you are going to have
to widen out just slightly to your left, sir, to make the turn to final and also to take
you away from the city.
UAL 232: Whatever you do, keep us away from the city.
3:53 p.m. -- Sioux City: United 232 Heavy, been advised there's a
four-lane highway up in that area, sir, if you can pick that up.
UAL 232: OK, we'll see what we can do here. We've already put the
gear down, and we're going to have to put it down on something solid if we can.
3:54 p.m. -- UAL 232: We've got about three or four minutes to go,
it looks like.
Sioux City: United 232 Heavy, Roger. Can you pick up a road or
something up there?
UAL 232: We're trying ....
3:55 p.m. -- Sioux City: United 232 Heavy, the airport is, oh,
about 18 miles southeast of your position, about 220 on the heading. But we're going to
need you southbound away from the city first, it you can hold a 180 heading.
UAL 232: We're trying to get to it right now .... OK, we're 180
degrees heading, now what do you want?
3:56 p.m. -- Sioux City: ... That heading will put you, oh,
currently 15 miles northeast of the airport. If you can hold that, it will put you on
about three-mile final.
UAL 232: OK, we're giving it heck.
3:57 p.m. -- Sioux City: United 232 Heavy, the airport's currently
12 o'clock and 13 miles.
UAL: OK, we're looking for it.
Sioux City: Ah, United 232 Heavy, if you cannot make the airport,
sir, there is an interstate that runs north to south to the east side of the airport. It's
a four-lane interstate.
3:58 p.m. -- UAL: We're just passing it right now. We're going to
try for the airport.
Sioux City: United 232 Heavy, roger, and advise when you get the
airport in sight.
UAL 232: Have runway in sight. We'll be with you very shortly.
Thanks a lot for your help.
Sioux City: United 232 Heavy, the wind is currently 360 at one one
(11 knots) .... You're cleared to land on any runway.
UAL 232: (Laughter) You want to be particular and make it a
runway, huh?
Sioux City: ... There is a runway that's closed, sir, that could
probably work, too. It runs northeast to southwest.
UAL: We're pretty much lined up on this one, or we think we will
be.
3:59 p.m. -- Sioux City: United 232 Heavy, roger sir. That closed
runway will work, sir. We're getting the equipment off the runway and they'll line up for
that one.
UAL 232: How long is it?
Sioux City: 6,600 feet, and the equipment is coming off. (Thirteen
seconds elapse.) At the end of the runway, it's just a wide open field, so, sir, the
length won't be a problem.
UAL 232: OK. (Twelve seconds elapse, then a ground proximity
warning horn sounds.) Pull up, pull up. (unintelligible).

Flight
232 Memorial
Commemorating the heroic rescue efforts shown
by the Sioux City community after the crash of United Flight 232 in 1989, the statue
depicts Colonel Dennis Nielsen carrying a young child to safety. The memorial is part of
Sioux City's riverfront development and is near the Anderson Dance Pavillion. The memorial area
features contemplative areas and a tree-lined approach with plaques narrating the tragic
event.



IN RETROSPECT
Captain Al Haynes delivered a stirring account of the ill
fated United Airlines Flight 232 to a packed house. Starting with a video of the last 45
minutes of Flight 232 with cockpit and air traffic controllers voices, then slides of the
dramatic rescue after the crash, Captain Haynes detailed how luck, communication,
preparation, execution, and cooperation saved 184 lives.
United Airlines Flight 232 left Denver on a sunny morning July 19, 1989, bound for
Minneapolis when failure of number 2 engine caused them to lose all hydraulic power. The
DC-10 made a crash landing in Sioux City, Iowa, fatally injuring 112 aboard. Miraculously,
all the people on the flight deck survived and no one on the ground was injured.
Captain Haynes, now retired from United Airlines, recounts his experience as captain of
Flight 232 to show how five main factors allowed 184 of the 296 people aboard Flight 232
to survive. LUCK: Weather, location, time of day and the fact that the airplane remained
marginally controllable and flyable; COMMUNICATION: Quick and total response by air
traffic control, cockpit and cabin crew training, proper intra- -communication training
among ground units, and proper use of available facilities; PREPARATION: A live action
drill leading to improvements and better planning for a disaster, coupled with thorough
training of the cabin and cockpit crews; EXECUTION: Everyone responded as their training
dictated and exerted a total team effort; COOPERATION: Complete cooperation from every
agency involved, as well as the general population.

Crash landing story sends message to all
By Capt. Todd Beer
89th Airlift Wing Safety Office
Members of the 89th Airlift Wing were treated to a very special presentation at
the base theater Monday. Al Haynes, captain of United Airlines flight 232 that crashed in
Sioux City, Iowa, was the guest speaker at the wing safety meeting.
In a stirring scene, Haynes recounted his thoughts and actions in the minutes
prior to the crash while video of the crash played in the background. The primary focus of
the speech, however, was teamwork.
Flight 232 crashed on July 19, 1989. A catastrophic engine failure crippled all
primary flight controls, forcing the crew to improvise a means to control the airplane.
The four members of the cockpit crew called on over 103 years of combined flying
experience to find that the operating engines were their only hope for maneuvering the
enormous craft. Using only the throttles to turn, the cockpit crew struggled with a
marginally controllable airplane as they searched for an airport.
Haynes credits the teamwork of several groups for making what at first appeared to
be a non-survivable accident into one in which most of those aboard survived. The cockpit
crew's actions have received the most attention, but in true heroic fashion, Haynes
emphasized the actions of others more than his own.
He praised the flight attendants for preparing the panicked passengers for the
crash. He praised the air traffic controllers for their calm and professional handling. He
praised the passengers for their selflessness and bravery during the evacuation following
the crash. And finally, he praised the hundreds of emergency response personnel on the
ground in Sioux City who reacted so quickly to the accident. The teamwork and quick
thinking of each of these groups, according to Haynes, were primary factors contributing
to the survivability of the crash.
He closed the presentation emphasizing the importance of preparing for major
accidents. There is no time to train during a crisis and the lives of those in an accident
depend on the rapid deployment of well prepared people.
Ironically, less than a year before the crash, the Sioux City emergency response
team ran an exercise that simulated an accident at the airport very much like the actual
crash of flight 232. Haynes believes the lessons learned during the exercise saved the
lives of many passengers.
The pilot speaks to more than100 groups each year and travels around the world
discussing his experiences during the fiery crash of flight 232.